eph200..do they work?

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by Mila
18 Apr 06 10:29

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hi, i looked through 2 of my magazines and they both had this pill that apparently u can eat anything u want and lose weight fast and it has all natural ingredients...its kinda cheap if u wanna lose up to 10 lbs i think it was? its $29 and i was wondering if anyone tried it or knows of anyone who has.. here is the website www.tomleehealth.com/eph200/

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by kritterkop
22 Apr 06 22:52

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Hey, yep I saw these ads too and was extremely curious about it. A couple of things I found to be a little suspicious when I was looking into them...
1. There was only one testimonial from a mom who bought the product for her daughter while she was over in sweden. Why were there not more testimonials on their site? Why did she have to go to Sweden to hear about them?
2. I looked up all the herb ingrediants seperatly and found out the 75% of them were some sort of ephedra-like component. It scared me to have so many different herbs in one pill that speeds metabolism, and I'm sure that would corelate to increased heart rate as well.

Let me know if you decide to try it and how it works. It just seemed a little too fishy for me since I have had bad heart reactions to other diet pills. Good luck to you!

by Mila
29 Apr 06 22:34

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well i dont know if i want to try it until i know enough about it..i dont want to make a wrong decision..i already tried lipovarin and it worked for me but i need to lose another 10 lbs and i wanted to try sumthing else that wasnt as expensive but will still work

by ali26
02 May 06 13:57

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I was on Lipovarin and though I lost some weight and luckily never gained it back -- I decided to try Fahrenheit which is available at Wal-Mart and CVS. I cut the capsules in half instead of taking one all at once. There are so many new ones on the market that are about $25 - Formula 9 , Retiva, NV that you may want to try. I'll post next week and tell you how this one is but it really is an appetite suppressant .

by Joleen
10 May 06 11:51

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Well I'm going to try it so I will let ya all know!

by Guest
24 May 06 07:00

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i just found that article alone, pulled out of a magazine, sitting on the couch when i came home from work. at first i thought my husband may have put it there, but then i thought no, he knows i hate pills. something itched at me to read the article, and now im curious as well. the way i see it, its not really a pill, just some herbs mixed up in an easy to swallow capsule... kinda like tea maybe? i wonder if they could put this in a tea, it'd certainly make me feel better. ive been searching sites on it, ive found both good and bad reviews, and its hard to tell who is telling the truth and who isnt... i may do some more research, and part of that might be to come back and read this page again, to see if anyone else has taken it.

by Tulip
27 May 06 10:23

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Ok, I'm really not into weight loss pills. I tried I could when I was a teen, but I tossed them aside saying they were for slimmer people wanting to drop just a few pounds for a wedding or vacation or something. Not for someone like me, who has over 50 pounds to loose.
I've been doing really good on my diet, except I've been stressed lately because of the fact we're going to the beach with my WHOLE family. I've lost quite a bit lately, but I'm not loosing right now. I was reading prevention magazine and saw the EPH200 ad. I liked the whole idea of the fact that it's "herbal."
My friend pointed out that they aren't exactly announcing it to the world that they are "FDA approved" Which is a great point.... are they????
I'm also going to ask a few doctors and go to my local herb store to see if the ingredients are in fact "purely herbal."
On the website it says these are the following ingredients (for anyone who actually has the bottle, if there are anymore, can you reply back with the complete list of ingredients??)

Ingredients:
vitamin D
calcium
Chromium
citrus Aurantium
Green tea
South African Hoodia Gordinii (I think there is a South African diet pill at wal-mart)
Garcinia Cambogi
Gymnema Sylvestre
Guarana
Yerba Mate
White Willow Bark
Gelatin (for the pill capsule part?)
MAgnesium Sterate
Silicon Dioxide (once again, the pill casing??)


Also the EPH doesn't stand for ephedra, according to the site it stands for "Effective Plants for your Health"

*sniff sniff* I smell something fishy :P
no, if I get a few doctors saying it's fine, I'm going for it!!!!



~Jessa~

by LuckySmile
27 May 06 14:34

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They probably are not FDA approved because FDA doesn't monitor supplements herbal or otherwise. If they don't have any banned substances in thier pills the FDA wont say anything.

by scorpjazz
30 May 06 02:57

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So I read this article in a mag., and decided to purchase the pills. I got them today and did some research of the ingredients. I went online to look up each one and the ingredient named Citrus Aurantium (ZHI SHI) has a chemical called Synephrine which IS simalar to ephedra. They found out that high % of synephrine can cause cardiac problems. This drug according to the brochure has 30% of Synephrine. This website that I stumbled across says you should not take Citrus Aurantium more than 3 days in row and should not take high amounts. SOOOOO I am really considering sending back the drugs. Don't know the website I stumbled on but look up Citrus Aurantium...

by Light
30 May 06 08:15

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Almost all active ingredients of diet pills contain chemicals that increase your blood pressure and heart rate. Its how they increase the metabolism.
If you know you have a heart condition than you should not use them. I agree that more tests should be made on this kind of products before putting them on the market.

by LuckySmile
30 May 06 10:37

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Citrus Aurantium
Nutritional Compound

OVERVIEW



Summary
Citrus aurantium, commonly referred to as bitter orange, has been used for thousands of years in Traditional Chinese Medicine to improve and maintain overall health. That is, until recently, when science discovered compounds (the most well-known being synephrine) from these little orange fruits demonstrated equally powerful thermogenic ("fat-burning") activity. In fact, synephrine is referred to as ephedra's "calmer chemical cousin" because it increases the body's metabolic rate or ability to burn calories, without producing negative side effects on the central nervous system and the cardiovascular system.

Other names for Citrus Aurantium
synephrine, bitter orange, naranja agria, zhi shi

Where to find Citrus Aurantium
Citrus aurantium is also called bitter orange because it tastes bitter and is orange. Like other orange trees, this is a big, fruit-bearing evergreen tree that orginated in Asia but is now found all over the world, including places like the Mediterranean. The fruits are small, about the size of a cherry.

Citrus aurantium contains around 0.2 to 0.5% essential oil, which is distilled from the unripe, green fruit and its peel. The oils contain compounds called limonoids, monoterpenes, and flavonoids. The peel contains the alkaloid synephrine and carotene pigments.

Synephrine is also found naturally in humans, though in very small amounts, primarily in the adrenal glands.


PERFORMANCE BENEFITS



Why athletes use Citrus Aurantium
If you use ephedra and are feeling a little too amped up, or if you have considered using ephedra and are concerned about potential (unwanted) side effects, Citrus aurantium might be just what you've been waiting for. Science has discovered this little orange fruit, sometimes called bitter orange, may still give your body a quick "boost" of energy as well as rev up your metabolism to assist your fat-fighting efforts without the undesirable effects of ephedra-based supplements.

Ways that Citrus Aurantium can enhance Fat Loss:

Increase the body's metabolic rate, using calories for energy to help burn fat
Potentially promote weight loss by suppressing appetite
Ways that Citrus Aurantium can enhance Energy & Endurance:

Mildly "stimulate" the body, thus supplying greater amounts of energy


HEALTH BENEFITS



Signs of Citrus Aurantium deficiency
No deficiency conditions are known to exist.

Potential uses for Citrus Aurantium
Research indicates that Citrus Aurantium may be useful in the treatment of:

Obesity
Fatigue/Weakness
Gastrointestinal disorders
Anxiety
Insomnia/sleep disorders
Anorexia
Dermatitis


DISCUSSION



More about Citrus Aurantium
Looking for a natural energy "boost" or increased fat-burning effects, but scared of using ephedra? Look no further than Citrus aurantium. While much milder than ephedra, recent research has shown Citrus aurantium revs up the metabolism, increases energy output, plus offers the additional benefit of improved digestion of foods, which may supply the body with even greater amounts of energy.

While the jury's still out on some other claims, like appetite control, it may be an even more effective thermogenic "fat burner" than ephedra. For this reason alone, this one's got us interested. Here's the lowdown...

Stimulant and thermogenic effects
Citrus aurantium appears to work by way of its active compound called synephrine, which is a bit like ephedra (a caffeine-like chemical found in a lot of weight loss and performance products). Like ephedra, this chemical also appears to reduce appetite and boost metabolism — the rate our bodies burn calories — thus stimulating fat loss. Unlike ephedra, though, you're likely to experience very little, if any, side effects with Citrus aurantium. This is because synephrine doesn't seem to cross the blood/brain barrier as easily as ephedra, which means reduced central nervous stimulation and cardiovascular effects. Ultimately, this could mean no nervous energy, shakes, or insomnia.

According to recent research at McGill University, another reason Citrus aurantium gives you a smooth flow of energy without the jitters is because it stimulates certain receptors (called beta-3 adrenergic receptors) that help break down fat. Simultaneously, this stimulation causes an increase in the metabolic rate. Therefore, you burn fat without bothering other receptors (namely, beta-1, beta-2, or alpha-1) that over-stimulate your heart rate and blood pressure. In contrast, ephedra stimulates all beta-adrenergic receptors, thus causing unwanted side effects.

Synephrine is now being used as a replacement for ephedra in many thermogenic formulas to reduce unwanted side effects.

Improved digestion of foods
Citrus aurantium is useful for digestive ailments as well. In fact, bitter orange has been used for thousands of years in Traditional Chinese Medicine for maintaining stomach and gastrointestinal health, improving circulation, and supporting liver health — with no reported adverse reactions.

Research suggests it works by helping the muscles of the digestive tract relax and increasing gastric juice secretion. By providing an environment for better food absoroption, this could supply the body with even greater amounts of energy, facilitating improved physical performance.

Appetite suppressant
Another application of Citrus aurantium is appetite control, but this one is a little fruity. While some sources claim it helps control appetite, the German Commission E, THE encyclopedia for herbal supplements, tells us the herb actually stimulates appetite! So, which is it?

Well, Citrus aurantium extract contains chemicals called tyramine and octopamine, and the latter is possibly the key to the appetite control. In the real world, when bugs try and eat this fruit, it disgusts them. Interestingly, in real live humans, octopamine seems to work like a fake neurotransmitter, which fools the pituitary into producing two distinct actions: first, it secretes chemical messages to the brain that give the sensation of "fullness," and second, it secretes growth hormone, which could theoretically help you build muscle. But before you plant your own bitter orange tree, honestly, much more research is needed to confirm this theory.

Soothing skin and "other" solutions
Topically applied, Citrus aurantium oil is also useful for treating skin fungi like athlete's foot and ring worm. But watch out if you're fair skinned. As mentioned above, the peel of the raw fruit can make you more sensitive to sunlight due to the toxic effect of "furocoumarins."

In conclusion
Whoever thought that nice little mini-orange tree growing in your backyard could be such a powerhouse of health and performance? Now, it's not really your typical orange tree, but once again, Traditional Chinese Medicine has led us to an important discovery: this little orange has the potential to ward of unwanted bodyfat and ramp up energy levels. As an ephedra substitute, Citrus aurantium certainly bodes well... very well. We'll be sure to keep you posted on more factual findings on this powerful supplement in the future.


NOTES ON USAGE



Amount
Research indicates that 4 to 20 mg of synephrine per day, which usually is provided by supplementing with 200 to 600 mg of a standardized Citrus aurantium extract (3 to 6% synephrine), may be effective.

If you're brave, you can stick the crushed peel in some hot water and "savor" a really bitter tea. Use 4 to 6 grams per day of cut peel for teas or 2 grams in 150 ml or boiled water 3 times a day. Alcohol solutions (tinctures) and liquid extracts are another (more enjoyable) way to take it.

Important Note
According to recent data, it appears that using the whole fruit extract is the best way to take Citrus aurantium since there are many additional chemicals in the plant besides synephrine that are used for increasing the metabolism, and we're only beginning to understand their total, combined effects.

Timing
For weight loss, use in evenly divided doses throughout the day, preferably on an empty stomach. For stimulant effects, use 30 to 45 minutes before exercise, again, without food.

Synergists of Citrus Aurantium
Citrus aurantium is often included in formulas with kola nut and guarana (which are caffeine sources) to synergistically assist in thermogenesis.

Citrus aurantium is sometimes combined with Garcinia cambogia (HCA) to increase thermogenic effects.

Safety of Citrus Aurantium
Both isolated synephrine and Citrus aurantium extract can crank up your blood pressure, so if you've got heart problems or high blood pressure, it may be best to avoid it. Synephrine causes a rise in blood pressure by triggering vasoconstriction (tightening of your vascular system or blood carrying network). Like many natural supplements, avoid use during pregnancy or lactation.

Drugs that interact with Citrus Aurantium
Do not combine with heart or blood pressure medications.

Toxicity of Citrus Aurantium
Like most bitter herbs, there is stuff in here you don't want to be messing with. Try to avoid rubbing raw Citrus aurantium (the fruit) all over your body since the peel can irritate the skin and even make you more sensitive to sunlight due to the phototoxic effect of furocoumarins.

Bans and restrictions
Some experts have theorized that synephrine may show traces of alkaloids in the body similar to ephedra, but more research is needed to verify if this is, in fact, the case. At present, synephrine is not on any banned list. Still, if you are an elite athlete who is regularly drug tested, it is recommended that you discuss supplementation with your physician before use.


RELATED RESEARCH




Candelore, M.R., et al., "Potent and Selective Human Beta(3)-Adrenergic Receptor Antagonists," J Pharmacol Exp Ther 290.2 (1999) : 649-55.

Chen, X., et al., "The Effects of Citrus aurantium and its Active Ingredient N-Methyltyramine on the Cardiovascular Receptors," Yao Xue Xue Bao 16.4 (1981) : 253-9.

Colker, CM., et al., "Effects of Citrus aurantium Extract, Caffeine, and St. John's Wort on Body Fat Loss, Lipid Levels, and Mood States in Overweight Healthy Adults," Curr Ther Res 60 (1999) : 145-53.

Fontana, E., et al., "Effects of Octopamine on Lipolysis, Glucose Transport and Amine Oxidation in Mammalian Fat Cells," Comp Biochem Physiol C Pharmacol Toxicol Endocrinol 125.1 (2000) : 33-44.

Galitzky, J., et al., "Specific Stimulation of Adipose Tissue Adrenergic Beta 3 Receptors by Octopamine," C R Acad Sci III 316.5 (1993) : 519-23.

Hu, S., and Wang, G., "Textual Studies on Shangzhou Zhiqiao Fructus Aurantii," Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi 21.3 (1996) : 137-8, 189.

Miyazawa, M., et al., "Antimutagenic Activity of Polymethoxyflavonoids from Citrus aurantium," J Agric Food Chem 47.12 (1999) : 5239-44.

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by Guest
31 May 06 06:27

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ooo i have some of these...
Obesity (well maybe, im only about 20lbs overweight)
Fatigue/Weakness
Gastrointestinal disorders
Anxiety
Insomnia/sleep disorders

maybe i should try that without the pills mixture :)

by raven9653
05 Jun 06 13:29

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I have also seen the ad. I'll be researching a lot more before I consider trying it. Sounds like most of you do your homework, too, so the comments below won't apply to you. However, I wanted to note something that concerns me because I see it and hear it so often.

There seems to be a common belief among consumers that "herbal" or "all-natural" means SAFE. This is not necessarily true!

There are some herbs that are dangerous if taken at all, and others that can have dangerous effects when they interact with medication or other herbs. Rattlesnake venom is "all-natural," too, but that doesn't necessarily mean I should put it in my body!

Herbs and other "natural," non-food components are NOT, in most cases, monitored nor tested by the FDA, so saying an herbal supplement is "FDA approved" is quite misleading, if not a bold-faced lie.

Now, I'm not saying that all herbal supplements are bad, or that THIS particular supplement is dangerous. I just don't know yet whether it isn't. Before taking any supplements, please, for your own sake, do your homework! Research it, ask your doctor, or both. Don't rely on claims that it is an "herb," and don't assume that "all-natural" means it's harmless.

As I said, looks like most of you do, so I'm kind of preaching to the choir here. But hopefully someone who reads these posts will at least take note of this warning, and be careful. Thanks!

--Amy

by Guest
06 Jun 06 17:15

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hence my reason for wanting to try one of the herbs instead of all :P

by Melsey
08 Jun 06 16:47

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EPH200 is WORTHLESS !!! Save your money! It actually made me gain weight and I was losing prior to taking it! The BBB is going to hear about MR TOM LEE HEALTH CENTER and HIS FALSE CLAIMS!!!![/b]

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