Competitors selling fake ephedra! Beware!

Ephedra Diets with Ephedrine Alkaloids are scientifically proven to burn fat, suppress appetite and energize. Beware of fake ephedra extracts sold elsewhere without the active ingredient ephedrine alkaloids from years ago. What overweight women and men have learned is that for years virtually every professional bodybuilder, informed fitness expert and successful personal trainer would tell you the same thing. Whether you want to accelerate the burning of excess body fat, boost your metabolic rate, heighten your thermogenic output or increase your energy level, there is nothing stronger or more effective than the "thermogenic cocktail" of Ephedra, Caffeine, and Aspirin (The E/C/A- Stack"). Patented formula and scientifically proven to work without diet or exercise.

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Beware of others on this board trying to give the company a bad name. Fake ephedra sellers are everywhere. Make sure you see Ephedrine Alkaloids in the ingredients. Compare them to others if you want to believe the competition in this board.
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I bought from them, a bottle they suggested that was to have ephedra alkaloids. I felt absolutely nothing taking them. They Do not give refunds either, so beware. They are advertising their own company on here, don't believe it. You can get real ephedrine from companies online, not ephedra. There is a difference.

That is exactly what I am talking about.  Already one competitor caught trying to discredit the only site selling the real ephedra, ma huang and sida cordifolia.  Fluffynotfat, how can you feel nothing when the product has about 3 cups of coffee on top of ephedrine alkaloids?  Which product did you purchase?  No refunds?  Can you post something more substantial that we can use?  What company do you work for?  Why do you hate the only site selling the real deal?  Did they steal any of your customers?  Sorry to hear that.



Beware of others selling fakes called Ephedra Extract.  Those do not have the active ingredient Ephedrine Alkaloids.  You can't even get that one right Fluffynotfat with your last comment. 

"You can get real ephedrine from companies online, not ephedra. There is a difference."

Difference is that you are a moron talking out of your fluffynotfat arse.

is a complete rip off. All real ephedra alkaloid diet pills are now banned and not made anymore. Anything that says it has ephedra alkaloids is a lie. They use fake ephedra such as Extract, Nevadensis, and Leaf. So don't believe it when it says it has 25mg of ephedra alkaloids. (no more then 10mg of ephedra alkaloids is illegal and not effective enough for real fat burning results). Ephedra has been banned by the FDA sense 2005. These are just people that used to make big money selling the real thing, but sense it's banned now they do not want to loose there business so they trick people into buying the fake stuff. I hope people read this so they don't  loose there hard earned money from these con artists.

Clover, you seem to lack knowledge in ephedra and ephedrine.  You need to also get educated in English grammar and spelling.  There is not such think as Ephedra Alkaloids.  Ephedra is the herb and the active ingredient is Ephedrine Alkaloids.  Only real Ephedra, Ma Huang and Sida Cordifolia has Ephedrine Alkaloids.  Before you jump into wrong conclusions and spread misinformation, go read a bit more before you post.  A good place to learn about the difference between fakes and the real ones is ephedra.cc

You can even learn about the legalities.  As for your English, practicing on message boards is not a good idea.  I happen to get my ephedra from and their stuff is the original formula and the real deal.  Can't say the same about the other scammers selling the fake ephedra extract which is also known as ephedra viridis and ephedra nevadensis which do not have any ephedrine alkaloids.  Science has been conclusive only on the ones that have the ephedrine alkaloids.  You can tell which one are real and fake after you take 1 dose.  The fakes are loaded with caffeine and phenylethylamine (PEA).  That combination will give you a strong energy kick that will last you about 3 hours only.  The real ones with ephedrine alkaloids will last about 8 hours.  I speak from experience ... not out of my butt because my butt's vocabulary is not as extensive.

clover831.... I work in the Centennial Medical Center phramacy  in Nashville, Tennessee.  I can tell you the FDA only banned ephedra/ephedrine Over the Counter Sales .  This ban was on anything that was labeled for dietary use.  It wasn't due to people dieing.  With the 100 (+ /- a few) people that supposedly died from ephedra/ephedrine had other underlying health issues, and the medical reporters could not say 100% that the ephedra/ephedrine was the cause of death. 

With that being said, This ban is tied to two objectives; The ban is mostly tied to the: Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 (CMEA) With ephedra/ephedrine being the key componets for the manufacture of meth.

If it was such a bad supplement, do you really think the FDA would have approved ephedra/ephedrine  to be put into prescription/OTC asthma meds, and other prescriptions for low blood pressure, some sleep disorders, dysmenorrhea(menstrual problems), and yes some prescription diet pills .  Which brings the other objective to the ban.  Pharmaceutical companies petitioned and lobbied for this ban. 

With the ECA stack working as good as it does, the pharmaceutical companies saw a chance to cash in on some major money.   With it off the shevels, the large pharmaceutical companies can charge 100's times more for it.  This ban is political.

As for , they are 100% legitimate.  I buy Red Cutz XS from them(I can get it cheaper through them then through my best conections)  When I was in high school, on the football team, our coach had us taking the orginal Ripped Fuel with ephedra-To help bulking.  I have been buying the Red Cutz XS from , I can tell you that Red Cutz is actually better the the orginal Ripped Fuel.  It is the real deal. 

You are right Pharm01.  The attacks on real ephedra and the site only come from those who think they know everything about it and the seller without ever have tried it or bought it from that site.  User clover831 seems to either be working for the pharmaceutical companies, is an offshore generic drugs seller (pushing his own pharmaceutial diets) or is a competitor selling the fakes.  He probably thought ephedra was harmful only days ago before he got a reeducation and became enlightened after reading a few forums.  His spelling and grammar has improved a bit also.  I have tried the Red Cutz and can surely say that it has the real ephedrine alkaloids at 25mg in there.  The way I can tell is by determining how long the energizing effects last.  With the real ephedrine alkaloids/caffeine combination, it will last about 7 to 8 hours. On top of that, you get all the benefits of it like enhanced concentration, rise in metabolic rate, ease in breathing, workout intensity, muscle sparing abilities etc.  With the fakes using ephedra extract/PEA/Caffeine, you get an intense energy rush at first but then the effects wear out in about 2 to 3 hours at most.  With the real ephedrine alkaloids, you will experience weight loss as the scientific studies have proven.  With the fakes, you get a 2 to 3 hour high and will end up paying a lot more than getting the real ones. As far as weight loss and benefits is concerned, you can forget about it.

Tried their Black Ace and it is as good as the old Stacker 2 or Black Ice.  Got the energy, appetite suppression and weight loss as scientifically proven.  My slim body is the proof as well    all the way baby!

I bought the RedHotz from . The packaging was discreet and I recieved them in a couple of days of ordering. It was the real ephedra. I was washing the walls in all of the rooms of my house for the first week. Make sure that when you buy an "ephedra-based" product that it states in the ingredients list EPHEDRINE ALKALOIDS. Not Extract. They are two completely different things. The alkaloid is the original ephedra that everyone remembers.

I know all about the fakes now.  Thank you guys for the heads up.

I am reporting to the Better Business Bureau, to the FDA, and the DEA. I encourage others here to do the same.

I'm in!

Just bought Minilean 25-100 AND Zenalean Pro from because I "didn't want to get ripped off with the fake stuff". Products that "had the ephedra alkaloids". Result....I've had the real stuff and know what it feels like. The products I got sold is NOT the real thing. I fear that this is just another scam. Too bad. I believed this board. I give up finding the "real thing".  It's just not there any more....

Sorry to have been misleading this board for such a long time.  TWS has been taking away my business because I sell fake ephedra.  That is the reason why I say that Mini Lean and Zenalean Pro, their top sellers are fake.  TWS in fact has the ones with ephedrine alkaloids unlike the ones I and others sell which have fake ephedra called Ephedra Extract without the active ingredient Ephedrine Alkaloids.  If you don't believe me, take them and you will feel the effects in just 45 minutes like the ones from years ago.  Below is my contact information if you want to know more.  I beg this board to forgive my deceptive tactics.  I created multiple usernames to give TWS a bad name.  They are probably the only sellers left with the real ones.
Jeff Rushing
607 Angle Fire Dr
Hewitt, TX 76643
(254) 498-8740
jef0071@yahoo.com

These guys do have the real ones and has been proven.  The fakes sold elsewhere are loaded with inert ephedra and loaded with caffeine and phenylethylamine.  The real ones have Ephedrine Alkaloids listed on the bottles.