Fake Ephedra sellers attacking Real Ephedra Site

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by ephedradiets
11 May 09 21:23

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How suspicious is it that only the real ephedra seller thatswholesale.com is being attacked but there is no mention of anybody purchasing fake ephedra from any other site with any feedback at all? We know who you are (paramount-sups, fixfitness).

Ephedrine is Ephedrine regardless of where it comes from. It is an amphetamine analogue and by nature, is a Central Nervous System stimulant. The synthetic kind is called Ephedrine HCL and it is a salt made in a lab. The natural kind is the ephedrine alkaloids and comes from Ephedra, Ma Huang or Sida Cordifolia. It is the amount per pill of Ephedrine Alkaloids (regardless if it comes from the seed, leaf or stem) that matters. 25mgs of ephedrine alkaloids from Ephedra is the same as 25mgs of ephedrine alkaloids from Sida Cordifolia or another source. If you can't comprehend this then you probably still think 1 lbs. of lead is heavier than 1 lbs. of feathers.

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by modelz
25 Sep 09 01:21

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i mean im sure you know what ur talkin about,i used the real thermostat back in the real ephedra days and went from 2 pills a day to 1/2 a pill by breaking it open,tasted grose but worked faaster skipping the time release,now i though ANY king of ephedra was illegal now,not talkin about the leaves junk,so how is it ANYONE can sell anything close anywhere is what i wanna know....................................

by anonymous
25 Sep 09 04:33

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Find the law that says it is illegal.  Hint:  Controlled Substances Act.
You may also want to pick up an English for Dummies book while you are at it.

by dragonlady
06 Oct 09 12:57

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I bought from thatswholesale 2 or 3 years ago when the ban was lifted temporarily, and got a decent product.  I was a firm believer and intended on being a repeat customer.  However, about a year ago I ordered 2 bottles of something called Ephburn25, specifically because it supposedly contained the 25 mg alkaloids, and they were crap.

I have no idea if the first stuff i got was leftover from before the first ban, or if the little stickered on expiration date was bogus on the second, or even what the shelf life is......or if the labelling is just a scam.

Fact is, they banned in 03, overturned in 06, then THAT ruling was overturned and it is now illegal in a weight loss supplement again.  So-anyone who is openly marketing real 25 mg alkaloids as a weight loss supplement in the U.S. is either going to have the fda up their a$$, or some pi$$ed off customers.

The reason the leaf crap is still legal is because it is not the same thing, period.  Weight may not be relative here sweetheart, but lead is still not feathers, no matter how you package and sell them. 

All ephedrine is not equal to all ephedrine, just as all hoodia is not equal to all hoodia.  How it is processed makes all the difference in the world as to it's strength and efficacy.

by ephedradiets
06 Oct 09 15:14

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You are wrong.  Real Ephedra, Ma Huang or Sida Cordifolia has the active ingredient Ephedrine Alkaloids.  What makes one stronger than the other is the amount per pill/dose.  25mgs of ephedrine alkaloids from Sida Cordifolia is equivalent to 25mgs of ephedrine alkaloids from Ma Huang or Ephedra. Otherwise you may start believing that 1 pound of lead is heavier than 1 pound of feathers.  Hoodia is Hoodia but the active ingredient must be there.  Same goes for Ephedra.  It is the amount per dose/pill.  Ephedra is plant/herb.  So why do you say that the leaf is crap?  Open up a tea bag.  What do you see inside?  If the leaf in a plant/herb is makes it weak, then what would make it strong?  The dirt it is sitting on?
Ephedra has never been illegal.  Find the law in the categories of the Controlled Substances Act.
"Fact is, they banned in 03, overturned in 06, then THAT ruling was overturned and it is now illegal in a weight loss supplement again."
Why are you misinterpreting ban with illegal?  A ban is like your mom telling you not to stay out late at night.  If you do, then you get grounded.  Illegal is like the city imposing a curfew.  If you stay out later, you go to jail.  FDA approved ephedra to be used as a nasal decongestant.  If the FDA told you that you cannot suck an orange to quench thirst, would you believe it even if science proves otherwise?  Just because you did not like the effects of EphBurn25 doesn't mean that all products from a company is useless.  Have you even tried the original Stimerex-ES which is the strongest ephedrine alkaloids product in the market?  Or even their top selling Red Cutz XS which is a pure ECA Stack?  No.  Why do people like you are always wrong but strongly believe that they know so much by watching TV?  Get the real ephedra with ephedrine alkaloids at
thatswholesale.com
ephedrawholesale.com

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