18 Mar 09 13:57
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Expired Phen

scared2bscammed — I have some Phen that has an expiration date Aug '08, do you think it's still good? Has anybody else used expired Phen?
18 Mar 09 14:23
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lloydjv — Probably still good. They don't turn to poison or anything. The shelf life of many pharmaceuticals is actually quite long, even after the expiration date has long passed. Most likely they will not have lost much if any of their potentcy.
18 Mar 09 14:40
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scared2bscammed — Thanks!
19 Mar 09 12:05
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Tots — Hi Scared2bescammmed, I have recently been taking some expired phen and it is just fine.  It is about 2 years old; I didn't realize it was in my vitamin/supplement container in it's own section - forgot I had put it there!  It has worked just as well as it did before.  After a few years I believe it will lose potency but like lloyd said, it won't become toxic in any way.
23 Mar 09 15:22
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socalmrs — Great question.  I was doing some spring cleaning and OMG I found a JACK POT of goodies.  But these phentermine are REALLY REALLY OLD; they're 2003 (6 yrs old) *GULP*
Are you suuuure they don't turn to poison? lol Image
23 Mar 09 23:28
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kcintn — Yall can send some to me and I will try it for you!!!
23 Mar 09 23:36
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Sugar T*ts — Six years is pushing it, although I would highly doubt it would turn "poisonous". More likely, it would be completely ineffective.
24 Mar 09 12:28
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losewt — I heard somewhere that they actually do become toxic after a certain amount of time........i wish i could remember where i heared it (this forum? the news? don't know)
24 Mar 09 15:48
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Sugar T*tshttp://www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com/alerts/prescription_drugs/JohnsHopkinsPrescriptionDrugsHealthAlert_677-1.html

And for those who don't want to click:
Johns Hopkins Health Alert: Ask the Doctor About Your Prescriptions
Prescription Medication Question 1 -- Are medications that have passed their expiration dates good to use, or should they be discarded?

Think of expiration dates -- which the U.S. Food&Drug Administration (FDA) requires be placed on most prescription&over-the-counter medications -- as a very conservative guide to longevity. The expiration date is a guarantee from the manufacturer that a medication will remain chemically stable—and thus maintain its full potency&safety -- prior to that date. Most medications, though, retain their potency well beyond the expiration date,&outdated medications, whether prescription or over-the-counter, are not usually harmful.
In a study conducted by the FDA on a large stockpile of medications purchased by the military, 90% of more than 100 medications were safe&effective to use years after the expiration date. More recently, the FDA approved two-year extensions on expiration dates for a number of drugs, including the antibiotics Cipro (ciprofloxacin), penicillin,&tetracycline; the Tagamet (antiulcer/antireflux drug cimetidine);&Valium (diazepam), a tranquilizer. The drugs in the FDA study, however, were stored under ideal conditions -- not in a bathroom medication cabinet, where heat&humidity can cause drugs to degrade.
If your medications have been stored under good conditions, they should retain all or much of their potency for at least one to two years following their expiration date, even after the container is opened. But you should discard any pills that have become discolored, turned powdery, or smell strong; any liquids that appear cloudy or filmy; or any tubes of cream that are hardened or cracked. To help maintain potency, store your medications in a closet or cabinet located in a cool, dry room. Also, don’t mix medications in one container: chemicals from different medications can interact to interfere with potency or cause harmful side effects. If two or more medications have been mingled for any period of time, discard them. A few medications, like insulin&some liquid antibiotics, do degrade quickly&should be used by the expiration date. Also, consider replacing any outdated medications that you’re taking for a serious health problem, since its potency is more critical than that of an over-the-counter drug you take for a headache or hay fever. If in doubt, consult a pharmacist.

Prescription Drug Question 2Where’s the best place to store your medications?
It’s not the medicine cabinet in your bathroom. The heat&humidity from showers&baths can cause medications to break down, lose potency, and, in rare cases, even become toxic. To keep your medications in the best condition, keep them in a dry area away from heat&light, such as a dresser drawer. Kitchen cabinets are also a good choice, as long as they aren’t next to the stove, sink, or dishwasher. Wherever you keep your medications, make sure that bottles are tightly sealed after use.
24 Mar 09 22:46
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losewt — Thank you so much, sugar, for all this info!!!
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