Dr. B Busted..now lets start encrypting our sources
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Macy
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject:
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| I guess I'm persona non grata because I'm a newbie and from Texas. I'm also an ex Dr. B person and am looking for an alternative. I haven't felt so intimidated since C Lunch in junior high. I'm willing to participate in discussions to get intheknow. Please though, the Texas paranoia is a little much. If anyone isn't afraid of me, please pm me and help a girl out. |
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bjay22
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject:
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| JaneA wrote: | | I thought the whole point of a forum like this was to share info. I was very grateful to get connected to Chen based on posts here, and I'd really like to help others who (like me) have already wasted good money on fake pills from foreign pharmacies. If the DEA has spies lurking in this forum (which I personally doubt), they are probably the oldest and most active members. I'm very sorry that Dr. B got busted, but I really don't think it was because of any info posted here. As I recall, Dr. B had a national reputation among Walmart's pharmacists as the "internet doctor" who wrote scripts for phen. |
I used to think that was the whole point of the forum also and would post that very thing - but after what happened to Dr B, I'm beginning to think otherwise. I know it stinks, but it's the only conclusion I can draw.
Mainly, because no one knew anything about him until he was suggested by a trusted member of this site many, many months ago. When she first brought up his name, most were skeptical and no one had ever heard of him. It took awhile, but then his name and initials became well known here and spread like wildfire to other web sites and now look what happened. It's obvious that his business picked up only after being mentioned here. It's evident because they became so busy, his web site would frequently crash and the office would send us emails apologizing for all the delays & tell us they were hiring more help. I am really saddened to think that for all our good intentions in helping others, it caused his office to eventually get shut down.
I also disagree that as you suggest, our oldest & most frequent posters are possible spies. But I do think that is what any possible whistleblowers would want us to think.  |
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keepingmynameprivate
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject:
DEA not looking out for our best interests |
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I've never written in to this forum, but I've been reading for several months. And I got "the email." For four months, I didn't have to mess around with rip-offs, fakes, and all of the crap. I had a real doctor, I went to a real pharmacy, and I had a sense of calm.
I've had an eating disorder for 25 years. It started when I was 15--hard-core bulimia for 10 years. Then I was given phentermine (adipex back then) and I finally was able to control my impulsive eating--but I felt pretty awful. I went back and forth between adipex and bulimia until phen-phen came out. I got to a comfortable (not anorexic) weight, stopped throwing up, ate extremely healthy food, and was very athletic and fit.
-Just FYI: I did try therapy a few times. It did not help. I truly believe eating problems are, like alcoholism, a disease.
We all know what happened with phen-phen, so I was back to square one. Did the whole mail/rip-off thing, got very heavy, started losing teeth from the bulimia and was flat-out miserable. When I read about His program, I signed up. I've been losing weight and feeling extremely balanced, controlled, and calm. Now--flat cold--I am back to not only suffering my "disease," but also dealing with what apparently is not a terribly good thing to do: quitting fluxotene cold-turkey. I mean, are they kidding? It says in every medical description for this substance that stopping immediately can bring about depression and suicidal thoughts! How then can an Agency working in "our best interests" take action to put us all in danger of these very common effects of stopping cold rather than tapering off? I've never read anything bad about His program, and an awful lot of people were improving their health because of Him. Now all of those people are subject to depression, heart palpitations, and suicide? Would He have ever had us stop this way? If what he was doing was not "legal," it seems the Agency would have at least allowed him to see that his patients ceased using his formula in a safe and effective manner--that is, if they even CARED about us!
I am angry and disgusted! I was doing nothing criminal. Simply trying to conquer a problem I've suffered my whole life with little or no help available.
It is a shame and I know the frustration you all feel. Good luck. |
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ShyGuest
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject:
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WOW- keepingmynameprivate ---- you are so right... I am more worried about the cease of my Prozac prescription at this point. What a difference this whole thing has made for my psyche. Six months ago, as I had not learned how to use the system yet, my prescription was late. I was only taking a half of the other prescription a day, it was the Prozac that was really helping with my emotional eating. When my prescription ran out for Prozac, I felt horrible after a few days. I instinctively knew it was that I missed several days of the Prozac. Before that, I had been on the program for four months and had never felt so good in my ENTIRE life. As soon as my prescription came in - after a few days, I was back to feeling great. You are right- how can the DEA believe that a sudden cease of legal prescriptions is good for anyone? IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE FDA WEBSITE "You should not stop taking PROZAC Weekly or PROZAC abruptly. Talk to your doctor before you stop taking PROZAC Weekly or PROZAC. "
Also, to Macy- no offense to you- while Dr B's patients have done nothing wrong, use Google to find information regarding how the DEA uses messege boards to find the information they want/need. |
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bjay22
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject:
Re: DEA not looking out for our best interests |
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| keepingmynameprivate wrote: | I've never written in to this forum, but I've been reading for several months. And I got "the email." For four months, I didn't have to mess around with rip-offs, fakes, and all of the crap. I had a real doctor, I went to a real pharmacy, and I had a sense of calm.
I've had an eating disorder for 25 years. It started when I was 15--hard-core bulimia for 10 years. Then I was given phentermine (adipex back then) and I finally was able to control my impulsive eating--but I felt pretty awful. I went back and forth between adipex and bulimia until phen-phen came out. I got to a comfortable (not anorexic) weight, stopped throwing up, ate extremely healthy food, and was very athletic and fit.
-Just FYI: I did try therapy a few times. It did not help. I truly believe eating problems are, like alcoholism, a disease.
We all know what happened with phen-phen, so I was back to square one. Did the whole mail/rip-off thing, got very heavy, started losing teeth from the bulimia and was flat-out miserable. When I read about His program, I signed up. I've been losing weight and feeling extremely balanced, controlled, and calm. Now--flat cold--I am back to not only suffering my "disease," but also dealing with what apparently is not a terribly good thing to do: quitting fluxotene cold-turkey. I mean, are they kidding? It says in every medical description for this substance that stopping immediately can bring about depression and suicidal thoughts! How then can an Agency working in "our best interests" take action to put us all in danger of these very common effects of stopping cold rather than tapering off? I've never read anything bad about His program, and an awful lot of people were improving their health because of Him. Now all of those people are subject to depression, heart palpitations, and suicide? Would He have ever had us stop this way? If what he was doing was not "legal," it seems the Agency would have at least allowed him to see that his patients ceased using his formula in a safe and effective manner--that is, if they even CARED about us!
I am angry and disgusted! I was doing nothing criminal. Simply trying to conquer a problem I've suffered my whole life with little or no help available.
It is a shame and I know the frustration you all feel. Good luck. |
You are so right. I think it is very irresponsible of the DEA to shut the Dr's patients out that way. I feel bad for all the ones who were finally having success at tackling their weight loss issues only to have it taken away because of one impatient person. |
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angel~whispers
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:
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| ShyGuest wrote: | | baglady wrote: | | ShyGuest wrote: | | It's very interesting that both people that said they were contacted by newbies are in Texas... Seems like someone in Texas is trying to gather information. Keep your eyes open! |
Um, ok... so let me get this straight - two people in the apparently small state of Texas were both pm'd by people that had only registered on 7/16/08 and 7/17/08 (in my instance) asking how to get a hold of 1 particular baker and to you that sounds like the 2 of us in Texas are trying to gather information??? 
I guess I am missing that connection, unless you're assuming the newbies were from TX also, which they weren't. Neither of them bothered to fill out any profile information. Besides - anyone who can read at a 2nd grade level should be able to find y's full email on here in no time. |
Noooooo I meant that the NEWBIES are not who they appear to be and they trying to gather information so they have something for court against Dr B. |
Waaaaait a second,
#1. Who says he or anyone is going to court?
#2. I think this is a lot of hysteria for nothing.
#3. It does not say a lot for our government if they are worrying about a little class 4 drug like this.
You all act like its heroin or oxycontin.
Now, I would not know by experience but from what I hear those are some pretty rot gut drugs!
Has anyone really checked to see if this is in fact a DEA crackdown?
I mean aside from the email received and hear say?.
I did not get one and they had all 3 of my email addresses.
I am not doubting that it was sent, But maybe this was just his way of not doing it anymore.
At one time while back, I talked to Betty and she said there upward to 175 clients a day! That is a lot!!!!
If the DEA and FDA are involved, Why are they not going after these international sites that sell talcum powder and cement and other rotten things?
I know of quite a few right now that are still operating. Blatantly too, Proud as you please and have been for a very long time..
I see commercials on tv and products on the shelves of health food stores that say "Not approved by the FDA" Vitamins are not approved by the FDA either, Hit these other forums and see how they talk about stuff that is stronger than phen on the shelves of these stores I have seen it myself.!
You would think they would take more issue with that!
Dear god, I have seen so much speculation here , Past and present,
However, If it is true, He must have gotten some DEA rep that was brand new and eager to make themselves look important.
I have never heard of someone having to hand over their DEA license that easily.
I have a friend who is a pharmacist, Yah, Yah, I know not a doctor but in the same ball field,
He says he has never heard of that either, Not usually without an arrest being made first.
Then it is usually splashed all over their area newspaper, People from Texas take a look there.
He said he finds this improbable because the use of telemedicine through telecommunication
is becoming more of a necessity each day! He went into telling about some shut in he knows,
But I got t he point he was making.
I got to thinking maybe he is right? After all, Think of all the services we are able to obtain through this kind of communication.., Legal services too.
My friend did say if it were true that this DEA person revoked his license, with no real solid proof of wrong real doing then the rep is in the wrong and should be dealt with accordingly and probably will be..
Furthermore If this is true, Do you really think he is intimidated or dumb enough to stand
for it without some legal intervention?
I have to say, I do not care for the term “Busted” That does make him sound like a common drug dealer which we all know he is not.(I know I know, I said it in an earlier post  my bad!)
Spies? What is this Get Smart? If there were really spies here, Don’t’ cha think they would have gotten
y guy and chen first? They’ve been here a hell of a lot longer than Dr. B.
The person electrocute who started this thread is from Texas, Are you saying she is a spy too? 
I am not afraid of people who live or are in Texas.
There are some good friendly folks there. 
But the bottom line at least for me is that I have nothing to hide. And neither do all of you.
You people act like we have done something wrong, We have not! I am just a fat housewife with a loooot of weight to lose and have no physical doctor and no insurance!
And even if I did, I have hard time getting to one anyway, Has anyone seen the price of gas these days? 
If phentermine is such a problem to them! Let the DEA call on me and I will tell them the same dam thing!
Why doesnt the "DEA or government do something about affordable health insurance and gas so we can haul our asses to the doctor?
Hell marijuana is more of a problem than this is!
End of story.
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baglady
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject:
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| keepingmynameprivate - I never even thought of that. That is so true. Sadly many people are going to start feeling like crap soon all because a government agency isn't allowing us to be weaned off of our meds the proper way. How backwards is that?! |
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Txsgrl
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject:
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| Hi. I've been lurking and reading for months and finally registered today because I just had to say that I'm from Texas also and this Texas paranoia is just bizarre. And encrypting?? I just received 90/37.5 A159s about an hour ago that I ordered Tuesday. Is my source invalid because I'm from Texas?? Or should I list it here in "encrypted" form???? I just feel like we are all in the same boat here, and if we "divide" we will be "conquered." Peace out!! |
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angel~whispers
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject:
Re: DEA not looking out for our best interests |
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| ShyGuest wrote: | WOW- keepingmynameprivate ---- you are so right... I am more worried about the cease of my Prozac prescription at this point. What a difference this whole thing has made for my psyche. Six months ago, as I had not learned how to use the system yet, my prescription was late. I was only taking a half of the other prescription a day, it was the Prozac that was really helping with my emotional eating. When my prescription ran out for Prozac, I felt horrible after a few days. I instinctively knew it was that I missed several days of the Prozac. Before that, I had been on the program for four months and had never felt so good in my ENTIRE life. As soon as my prescription came in - after a few days, I was back to feeling great. You are right- how can the DEA believe that a sudden cease of legal prescriptions is good for anyone? IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE FDA WEBSITE "You should not stop taking PROZAC Weekly or PROZAC abruptly. Talk to your doctor before you stop taking PROZAC Weekly or PROZAC. "
Also, to Macy- no offense to you- while Dr B's patients have done nothing wrong, use Google to find information regarding how the DEA uses messege boards to find the information they want/need. |
The same thing is said about phentermine, Have you ever stopped ANY medication abruptly?
The outcome of that is not a pretty one!
I know, If this was indeed something the DEA is responsible for, I hope it happens to them and they feel like owning dirt. |
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Sinclair
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject:
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Hello All,
Hmmm. I don't think that, the posting of our sources is the problem. Remember Dr. B was online for 8yrs., pandering Phentermine and Pain Meds for his chroinic pain patients. I believe, he hit the DEA radar after they started receiving complaints from his " nutball" patients and Pharmacist located in states outside Texas.
Just my Humble opinion |
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Sinclair
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject:
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| Txsgrl wrote: | | Hi. I've been lurking and reading for months and finally registered today because I just had to say that I'm from Texas also and this Texas paranoia is just bizarre. And encrypting?? I just received 90/37.5 A159s about an hour ago that I ordered Tuesday. Is my source invalid because I'm from Texas?? Or should I list it here in "encrypted" form???? I just feel like we are all in the same boat here, and if we "divide" we will be "conquered." Peace out!! |
Txsgrl,
I also live in TX, just 2.5 hrs outside Dallas. Would you PM me with your source, PUHLEASE!
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want2feelgood
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject:
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| i tell ya there should be a private forum for these things.. same thing i suggested last winter when i joined.. too many people come on here for a quick link. |
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ShyGuest
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:
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Soul to Soul- I am guessing that I did not word my message correctly as I already felt the need to clear this up with Baglady via PM. I simply meant for everyone to mind their P's and Q's in regards to Newbies contacting only the members from Texas. Seems fishy. Please use a google search to find out how the DEA uses online message boards. You will be quite surprised.
Also, I agree with you, Soul to Soul ... I absolutely KNOW that I have done nothing wrong and neither have any of the other members. While we should not have to worry about assisting eachother via online message boards, the bottom line is.... we do. |
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deebee
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:
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| fatbgone wrote: | | deebee wrote: |
I'll only post if I think I know the answer to something  or if I think I can add anything relevant.
It's nice to be here. 
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Then we better get ready for the posts to start rolling in if that's the only 2 times you are going to share.
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lol  I guess it sounds weird now that I read it again. 
I kinda' meant I wasn't going to be overly opinionated or pushy in any way. |
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fatbgone
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Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject:
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| deebee wrote: | | fatbgone wrote: | | deebee wrote: |
I'll only post if I think I know the answer to something or if I think I can add anything relevant.
It's nice to be here.
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Then we better get ready for the posts to start rolling in if that's the only 2 times you are going to share.
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lol I guess it sounds weird now that I read it again.
I kinda' meant I wasn't going to be overly opinionated or pushy in any way. |
That'll be the day. |
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